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thank you for coming and being with us today. [applause] with that, commissioner 1110, i will entertain a motion. >> i move that we name the chinese recreation center to betty ann ong. >> second. >> second. president buell: it is unanimous. thank you. [applause] thank you. i'm going to recommend we take a three-minute recess to allow those that came for this to celebrate and moved out. thank you very much. commissioner lee: i just wanted to thank the commission's staff and supporters. we thank you for renaming the san francisco chinatown recreation center to the betty ann ong chinese recreation center. there have been so many ups and downs and struggles during the last 10 years. we deeply honored this renaming from the bottom of our hearts. the legacy of betty and all the 9/11 heroes will be remembered forever. members of this commission, thank you very much. president buell: thank you. >> thanks, everyone. >> that may get a sense of how many people would like to testify on it this -- ok, seeing the large numbers that would like
thank you for coming and being with us today. [applause] with that, commissioner 1110, i will entertain a motion. >> i move that we name the chinese recreation center to betty ann ong. >> second. >> second. president buell: it is unanimous. thank you. [applause] thank you. i'm going to recommend we take a three-minute recess to allow those that came for this to celebrate and moved out. thank you very much. commissioner lee: i just wanted to thank the commission's staff and...
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this is 11:00 a.m., please join us. we partnership -- we partner with the trust for public land, and we have the new state park and the renovated task force. we have oktoberfest, this saturday. we have this one -- the swim team, this weekend. this is in the very competitive swim meet, and this comes from the bay view. i hope to see all of you out there. last but not least, our human resources director. >> good afternoon. i am the resources director from the parks department and i will try to make this brief. i will not go over the criteria, but joe has been with this organization since april 10, 1964. he started as the assistant gardener, and has worked over 47 years now, the assistant supervisor and now -- in his first appraisal in 1996, he shows enthusiasm in his work. with excellent knowledge of the applications of standard procedures, with high-quality. this shows the excellent evaluations from today. he was recognized by mayor feinstein for his work. with various groups such as urban forestry, and organizing volunt
this is 11:00 a.m., please join us. we partnership -- we partner with the trust for public land, and we have the new state park and the renovated task force. we have oktoberfest, this saturday. we have this one -- the swim team, this weekend. this is in the very competitive swim meet, and this comes from the bay view. i hope to see all of you out there. last but not least, our human resources director. >> good afternoon. i am the resources director from the parks department and i will try...
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a rigid central use. -- a nonconforming use to residential use. it will not only reduce cost but process and encourage their use. this legislation also anchorages commercial uses. we appreciate the neighborhood corner stores. it seeks to encourage more of them by allowing lapsed commercial uses to be reinstated. it allows those commercial uses to have awnings, which they're not currently allowed to have. it also seeks to expand the corner use provisions developed in the market and octavia planning process by increasing the allowable square footage from 1200 square feet to 2500 square feet. the proposed ordinance also seeks to reduce process by adjusting certain requirements that have been granted exceptions. the proposal increases as of right parking for residential units from one to four to one to two. to offset the increase, as of right parking, it also requires conditional use authorization to exceed that threshold. in addition, the legislation at certain exemptions to allow automotive service stations along primary transit streets or citywide
a rigid central use. -- a nonconforming use to residential use. it will not only reduce cost but process and encourage their use. this legislation also anchorages commercial uses. we appreciate the neighborhood corner stores. it seeks to encourage more of them by allowing lapsed commercial uses to be reinstated. it allows those commercial uses to have awnings, which they're not currently allowed to have. it also seeks to expand the corner use provisions developed in the market and octavia...
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it is in the special use district. i do not think there will be any adverse impact. >> i see you have a list of people who signed. how did you get this list, and what other out reached did you conduct? >> we have functions all the time. it is a popular place for associations. that was people who frequent the restaurant and have a relationship with the restaurant. in one evening, redrafted a few signatures. the next, a few signatures. the chinatown neighborhood association is a philanthropic organization that has a relationship with the restaurant. that was something where they knew the owners and operators for many years, and of course were very supportive. president newlin: we will open this to public comment. is there anybody who would like to address this issue from the public? >> thank you, president and commissioners. i am a resident of chinatown. i have lived in chinatown forever. we used to have six theaters. after or before the show, we would go to get a bite. right now, with television and d.v.d. is and other
it is in the special use district. i do not think there will be any adverse impact. >> i see you have a list of people who signed. how did you get this list, and what other out reached did you conduct? >> we have functions all the time. it is a popular place for associations. that was people who frequent the restaurant and have a relationship with the restaurant. in one evening, redrafted a few signatures. the next, a few signatures. the chinatown neighborhood association is a...
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grandmother give us crackers and dried fruit. see that. up the steep hills, across the city, we pushed and pulled the heavy cart. we were trying to get out to, where? golden gate park. right? >> yes. >> all around us, frighten people struggled with loads they cannot leave behind. terrified dogs, cats, and horses joined the people hurrying to safety. a lot of people were scared, even the animals were running around scared. mm-hmm. until, at last, we were away from the spreading fire is, away from falling buildings. all right. in golden gate park, there was food, water, and tents for shelter. the grandparents, brothers, and i rested and ate. do you see that? they got a little bit of rest. we were safe for now while this city still burned and the earth still shook. what did they live in? they live in tents. what is that one with the cross on it? yeah, the hospital, the medical tent. right, just in case anybody is hurt. there you go. all right. so that was the story about an earthquake that happened a long time ago. can you guess what year? >>
grandmother give us crackers and dried fruit. see that. up the steep hills, across the city, we pushed and pulled the heavy cart. we were trying to get out to, where? golden gate park. right? >> yes. >> all around us, frighten people struggled with loads they cannot leave behind. terrified dogs, cats, and horses joined the people hurrying to safety. a lot of people were scared, even the animals were running around scared. mm-hmm. until, at last, we were away from the spreading fire...
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we are ready for the maybe tens of thousands of jobs this will bring us. most importantly, we are ready and in need of the capacity that this system will bring. so that is where i believe we are. if current a challenges were the threshold for determining capital investment for the next generation, we would never make capital investment. there is no question, muni and the mta have for challenges, as do the rest of government, and we need to work through those, we need to be held accountable for those, but today's operational challenges are not a reason not to invest in the future of san francisco, and that is what this project is. we did respond point by point to every finding and recommendation. we are not going to go through the entire response today, but we do want to bring everyone up to speed on exactly where we are in addressing the main themes of the recommendations in the report, and to do that, i would like to ask the gentleman managing the central subway project to walking through a brief presentation. supervisor campos: thank you. >> chairman cam
we are ready for the maybe tens of thousands of jobs this will bring us. most importantly, we are ready and in need of the capacity that this system will bring. so that is where i believe we are. if current a challenges were the threshold for determining capital investment for the next generation, we would never make capital investment. there is no question, muni and the mta have for challenges, as do the rest of government, and we need to work through those, we need to be held accountable for...
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you have some people here who are hard working us -- hoodwinking us, trying to think for us. the people are here to say what they have to say because they are astute. the central subway is a debacle. they are making a lot of promises, but very few of those promises will be kept. why would we accept some project that is going to increase to $1.6 billion -- why should we accept it without having a dialogue? and shame on the supervisors for approving the subway project. thank you very much. supervisor campos: thank you. next speaker please. >> good afternoon. jim lazarus, chamber of commerce. the chamber has supported this project since it started years ago from the county line downtown into chinatown, and we hope that the next resolution from the board of supervisors will be urging the cta and the mta to design the next phase. if this subject was going to go as far as portsmouth square, it would be good enough, but i do not think that in our children's lifetime we will see a subject in to fisherman's wharf. that we will see this line extended into lombard and van ness. that sho
you have some people here who are hard working us -- hoodwinking us, trying to think for us. the people are here to say what they have to say because they are astute. the central subway is a debacle. they are making a lot of promises, but very few of those promises will be kept. why would we accept some project that is going to increase to $1.6 billion -- why should we accept it without having a dialogue? and shame on the supervisors for approving the subway project. thank you very much....
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i don't know what the time frame is or what the calendar looks like, get back to us and let us know that it is acceptable. >> as i mentioned earlier, my preference based on everything you heard today, i almost regret that many of the comments, especially the surface parking lot, there is work that we want to do there. having another hearing in december would be our preference. i think we will respond more by letter in terms of splitting it up -- we are changing definitions, putting things in line with policies that are in existence that you will have supported. we have an obligation to support affordable housing. we think we are moving in that direction. as you have seen, twice this year, we have dealt with controversial special units. we think this moves us in the direction of not having to do that. just on the timing issue, president -- president olague: rather than hearing it all in november, we change it to a 10 a.m. hearing. we probably should ask the mta, given some of the changes. i'm wondering, because it is a transit first piece of legislation, it does shift some of the requirem
i don't know what the time frame is or what the calendar looks like, get back to us and let us know that it is acceptable. >> as i mentioned earlier, my preference based on everything you heard today, i almost regret that many of the comments, especially the surface parking lot, there is work that we want to do there. having another hearing in december would be our preference. i think we will respond more by letter in terms of splitting it up -- we are changing definitions, putting things...
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there are precedents for projects in san francisco not using their contingency. i am hoping we can do something similar in this project. it is a complex project, but the point is it is just a contingency. i think it is the right thing and the responsible thing for the project team to put that on the books so we know we will be able to deliver the project without coming back to give explanations for why the money was not enough. again, look forward to continuing to work with mta on the project, and i am happy to answer any questions you may have. supervisor campos: thank you. is anyone from the mayor's office want to add anything? >> good morning. thank you for the opportunity. i serve as the transportation and admit -- environmental policy advisor for mayor lee. we're here to speak in strong support of the central subway project. the mayor's office responded point by point to all of the recommendations and findings that we were asked to respond to, and i know you have seen those, so i will not go through them point by point, but i did want to give a brief overvie
there are precedents for projects in san francisco not using their contingency. i am hoping we can do something similar in this project. it is a complex project, but the point is it is just a contingency. i think it is the right thing and the responsible thing for the project team to put that on the books so we know we will be able to deliver the project without coming back to give explanations for why the money was not enough. again, look forward to continuing to work with mta on the project,...
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i think this issue before us on this specific permanent and the i think this issue before us on this specific permanent and the
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that said, we do have a resolution in front of us. i am curious to hear from our colleagues what people would like to do on the resolution that does not specifically address the project but deals with muni management and finance issues, and i would like to hear from my colleague, supervisor farrell. supervisor farrell: fax, and i want to thank everyone for coming out today, and i want to echo the comments of both of my colleagues up here -- thanks, and i want to thank everyone for coming out. want to thank the grand jury for their work. we topically disagree with the project itself, but just a few comments -- one, i was surprised and a little bit disappointed in our report when the resolution in front of us has nothing to do with >> it is what is in front of us and what we will vote on in a second. in terms of the mta, i was surprised on some of their responses. i know that ed has only been there for a short amount of time. i thought it was very enlightening, the presentation. and also a caution to members of the grand jury on your re
that said, we do have a resolution in front of us. i am curious to hear from our colleagues what people would like to do on the resolution that does not specifically address the project but deals with muni management and finance issues, and i would like to hear from my colleague, supervisor farrell. supervisor farrell: fax, and i want to thank everyone for coming out today, and i want to echo the comments of both of my colleagues up here -- thanks, and i want to thank everyone for coming out....
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maybe we can use that one. the question is for the areas -- the municipalities that have free youth service, is that means tested? is that based on income level? or is it all youth in those places? portland, oregon, and new york city? >> yeah. portland is all youth. and new york is distant from the school. >> not based on income -- >> and where students live, right. >> ok. very good. thank you very much. >> hello. my name is annie and i'm a senior at galeo high school. i'm with the youth empowerment project, a youth-led, youth-run advocacy organization based in chinatown. so all of the youth are from our -- are high schoolers. mostly coming from low income families that live in chinatown. visitation valley, gulch and excelsor neighborhoods. for the past 12 or 13 years, i've been heavily dependent on muni not only for five days of school but also on weekends for chinese school. it usually takes me 45 minutes to an hour to get to school. without transportation, it is impossible to get to school because it serves
maybe we can use that one. the question is for the areas -- the municipalities that have free youth service, is that means tested? is that based on income level? or is it all youth in those places? portland, oregon, and new york city? >> yeah. portland is all youth. and new york is distant from the school. >> not based on income -- >> and where students live, right. >> ok. very good. thank you very much. >> hello. my name is annie and i'm a senior at galeo high...
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about who use of the building. it is not about the nonprofits that is going to be housed there. it is about a process in san francisco but has many different approaches. the issue here is the degree to which different segments of our community look at the extent of preservation within itsel. there are those who feel not an of preservation is occurring -- not enough reservation is caring. i do not want to be like a city where you cannot change of paint cover without a certificate. what is important for this body is to look at both sides. the side of the appellant in terms of his concerns with preservation who needs to however adapt what he is planning in response to some of these citywide issues of preservation, and also of the various agencies that have jurisdiction, and i think the planning department shares that, however, their approach could be different than certain individuals in the community. we have looked and number of situations here, and there were different permits. it was agreed that one of the permit
about who use of the building. it is not about the nonprofits that is going to be housed there. it is about a process in san francisco but has many different approaches. the issue here is the degree to which different segments of our community look at the extent of preservation within itsel. there are those who feel not an of preservation is occurring -- not enough reservation is caring. i do not want to be like a city where you cannot change of paint cover without a certificate. what is...
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i think the grain movement is where things can help us. we need other incentives where you eliminate the payroll tax and other things to get businesses to want to come to san francisco and not be in a situation where we are driving businesses over because we are not competitive economically. we need something on the avenue, something out to the richmond district. hopefully a subway or something they utilize is what we did 80 years ago where we went through our hills at the advantage of the tunnels, it makes a lot of sense in this set of trying to go through the streets. and provide transit to the richmond district, then we can make it much easier for those coming in this advances go from the north bay to easily get to downtown. we have plans for the train extension, central subway, all of these things will begin to address some of the problems south of market. we need transit that runs east- west and closer in where it will allow people to move between mission district and mission bay. it is a huge corridor. some other good news is, it loo
i think the grain movement is where things can help us. we need other incentives where you eliminate the payroll tax and other things to get businesses to want to come to san francisco and not be in a situation where we are driving businesses over because we are not competitive economically. we need something on the avenue, something out to the richmond district. hopefully a subway or something they utilize is what we did 80 years ago where we went through our hills at the advantage of the...
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it was a document that they have transmitted to us on the jury. however, the documents they referenced only state the number of vehicles required solely for operation of the central subway. their response does not address whether there will be, in fact, enough light rail vehicles available for the j, k, l, m, n, and shuttle lines. we have a chart at the bottom from the mta. it was an appendix to a large group of documents we were given. it looks like a total fleet side demand and procurements needed -- and we cut out the section on light rail vehicles -- set up by fiscal year. we cut out the intervening years from prison until 2018. if you look at 201832019, that is when the central subway is slated to open. it has currently been pushed to a january 19 opening. the numbers are hard to make that on the slide, but their numbers project they will need a peak demand of 179th light rail vehicles for the fiscal year. however, the fleet size plan will only be 175 vehicles, leaving a deficit of four vehicles system-wide. looking at this document, it appea
it was a document that they have transmitted to us on the jury. however, the documents they referenced only state the number of vehicles required solely for operation of the central subway. their response does not address whether there will be, in fact, enough light rail vehicles available for the j, k, l, m, n, and shuttle lines. we have a chart at the bottom from the mta. it was an appendix to a large group of documents we were given. it looks like a total fleet side demand and procurements...
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and one of the criteria, one of the most important criteria used in the project is the use of benefit criteria. how much will the public get from the project? right now, the project is at a critical junction. it is basically under final design. and at the same time, it is undergoing the early construction phase. they are overlapping. the three design packages, one of them is now complete. the design for the stations is 70% complete. and the systems, 43%. that is our mission earlier. the project is undergoing early construction. there is relocation in the areas of yerba buena and most ghani station. that is done -- and mosconi station. that is done. i am sure you have noticed what is going on in union square and the locations in that area. supervisor campos: let me say something about that. how long is that were going to last? in terms of the public and what the public will see, i think it would be good for us to give members of the public a sense of what that is going to look like. >> right now, there are discussions for accelerating the work so they can complete that portion of the w
and one of the criteria, one of the most important criteria used in the project is the use of benefit criteria. how much will the public get from the project? right now, the project is at a critical junction. it is basically under final design. and at the same time, it is undergoing the early construction phase. they are overlapping. the three design packages, one of them is now complete. the design for the stations is 70% complete. and the systems, 43%. that is our mission earlier. the project...
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our district -- we have had some people use a bait and switch. we are going to be a great restaurant, and somehow it is a nightclub. anytime an entertainment application comes across our desk, we really have to look at all the down sides, as well as the upsides. looking at this, i think we had the 10 different issues. since september, i have spoken with the captain. he would like to switch, rather than a 1:30 closing time, to go with the on friday saturday night's, and during the week pentium he would like a trial. he would like to let it go for one year, and see how the operation is. he is not against extending those hours, or having the commission -- obviously, we just make recommendations. teague has said they feel comfortable with the first nine conditions. i think we can work on them, as far as the security system. our comfort level is probably midnight. we would like to see the impact on the neighborhood and the businesses. i do not live on grant street. i do not have a business on grant street. if i did, i would like to have my business th
our district -- we have had some people use a bait and switch. we are going to be a great restaurant, and somehow it is a nightclub. anytime an entertainment application comes across our desk, we really have to look at all the down sides, as well as the upsides. looking at this, i think we had the 10 different issues. since september, i have spoken with the captain. he would like to switch, rather than a 1:30 closing time, to go with the on friday saturday night's, and during the week pentium...
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you can address us there. thank you. >> on your report of reopening my park, it is ferry park, not sue beerman. it's a disaster. the lights go on and on. you know it was criticized and i will go into that later. thank you. >> is there anyone else? >> i am co-chair of south park improvement. we have embarked on a grass- roots effort to master plan the park. we raise money privately. we have been working with the department of rec and park on this. we have done several meetings. now we have maintained david fletcher to help us continue our reach and develop a master plan, so we would have a budget and we would know how to pursue francgs large and small. we're also working with the planning department. as you well know, south park is surrounded by a street. in reconditioning the park, we are also hoping to bring together the better streets programs and traffic calming. i'm letting you know that we are doing this so when we come back with preliminary plans, you will know we have started. president buell: thank you
you can address us there. thank you. >> on your report of reopening my park, it is ferry park, not sue beerman. it's a disaster. the lights go on and on. you know it was criticized and i will go into that later. thank you. >> is there anyone else? >> i am co-chair of south park improvement. we have embarked on a grass- roots effort to master plan the park. we raise money privately. we have been working with the department of rec and park on this. we have done several meetings....
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what we're trying to do is ensure that we're bringing in all stakeholders to use money on? the bill -- access ability -- accessibility improvements. i am pleased to be joining a number of colleagues to introduce a resolution to reform our support for the central subway project and for replacement housing for the tenants displaced by that project. we all know the benefits in terms of transit ridership, this is why the board of supervisors has cast some of the unanimous votes. our city is committed to replacement housing for the 19 households that will be relocated for this public benefit and we know that great cities and our regret building subways. great cities regret not building subways. the rest of my items i will submit. >> thank you. supervisor mirkarimi. supervisor mirkarimi: i have one item. i would like to ask the city attorney to resuscitate a piece of wood solution that we sponsored nearly two years ago and that was to call for moving the san francisco police department crime lab under the cao so it would be in independent jurisdiction. considering this spate of s
what we're trying to do is ensure that we're bringing in all stakeholders to use money on? the bill -- access ability -- accessibility improvements. i am pleased to be joining a number of colleagues to introduce a resolution to reform our support for the central subway project and for replacement housing for the tenants displaced by that project. we all know the benefits in terms of transit ridership, this is why the board of supervisors has cast some of the unanimous votes. our city is...
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my uncle used to take me down when i was younger than you. i am here to support the community benefits district. i think it will welcome west portal into the current world. people go to places now. they go to restaurants. they could to shops. they expect to see something bright and shiny, and this is a great way to make a place bright and shiny. the assessment that the merchants and property owners will get is so small that they will not even feel it, but they will feel the benefits of it. i
my uncle used to take me down when i was younger than you. i am here to support the community benefits district. i think it will welcome west portal into the current world. people go to places now. they go to restaurants. they could to shops. they expect to see something bright and shiny, and this is a great way to make a place bright and shiny. the assessment that the merchants and property owners will get is so small that they will not even feel it, but they will feel the benefits of it. i
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to return that. >> thank you, for joining us today. we've been talking to supervisor of david campos of district 9. watch for the next episode when we will be back. supervisor chiu: good afternoon. welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors meeting of tuesday, october 25, 2011. madam clerk, please call the roll. >> [roll call] mr. president, all members are present. supervisor chiu: thank you. ladies and gentlemen, could you join me in the pledge of allegiance? >> to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. supervisor chiu:, luke's -- colleagues, you should have copies of the september 20 meeting minutes. could i have a motion to approve this? those minutes are approved. are there any communications? >> i have no communications at this time. >> could you go through our consent agenda items? >> items one through five comprise the consent agenda and will be acted upon by a single roll call vote unless and member of the board or public requests an item discussed separatel
to return that. >> thank you, for joining us today. we've been talking to supervisor of david campos of district 9. watch for the next episode when we will be back. supervisor chiu: good afternoon. welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors meeting of tuesday, october 25, 2011. madam clerk, please call the roll. >> [roll call] mr. president, all members are present. supervisor chiu: thank you. ladies and gentlemen, could you join me in the pledge of allegiance? >> to...
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as a used to power business to help sell -- solve social environment problems. two weeks ago, governor brown signed into law assembly bill 361, which creates a new class of b corporations in california. arce became the sixth to try these. i am drafting legislation that would provide city conferences similar to what is being done for local businesses. to receive this, a business would have to be legally recognized as a b corporation by the state of california. the legislation would be the first in the state to promote the foundation and growth of b corporations. i want to make sure they know we are open to business to them and we want to be the headquarters for such corporations that are employing san franciscans to provide services and goods that
as a used to power business to help sell -- solve social environment problems. two weeks ago, governor brown signed into law assembly bill 361, which creates a new class of b corporations in california. arce became the sixth to try these. i am drafting legislation that would provide city conferences similar to what is being done for local businesses. to receive this, a business would have to be legally recognized as a b corporation by the state of california. the legislation would be the first...
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they used tear gas and force. we had two locations in san francisco where there had been the use of force to remove people from the plaza and separate them from their belongings. my concern is that these confrontations travel that happen between the -- confrontations that happened between the police and protesters only increase the amount of uncertainty and distrust between the police and the people who are protesting, a distressed that i think will only get worse as we see the movement escalating, as i believe it is. we have seen a proliferation of the demonstrations, starting from one in wall street, now it is across the country and even across the world. this is not something that is going to end any time soon, and a thing that we will use force to make it more difficult to -- difficult for the to mistresses to occur is only going to backfire. we need to have a more supportive city and not use force to prevent the demonstration from continuing. this resolution i am sending to the city operations and neighborhoo
they used tear gas and force. we had two locations in san francisco where there had been the use of force to remove people from the plaza and separate them from their belongings. my concern is that these confrontations travel that happen between the -- confrontations that happened between the police and protesters only increase the amount of uncertainty and distrust between the police and the people who are protesting, a distressed that i think will only get worse as we see the movement...